There was a discussion this weekend on FReeRepublic.com on eugenics. It always amazes me how determined some of our ancesters were to breed "fitter families," how few people know the history of eugenics in the US, and how quickly the conversation ends up at the question about the children who might be produced who are not Homo sapiens: "Will they be human?"
This is a question that can't be answered "yes" or "no" without bringing in morals, philosophy and even religion. No longer will it be sufficient to rely on species definitions, as prolife activists often do now. We should have our answers ready for those who already define "person" according to a set of qualities and abilities, that seems to become more specific each day so that more and more members of even our species are discriminated against when it comes to qualifying for protection from harm by other members of our species.
(Personally, as a Christian, I'm convinced that all of our children, both those in our arms and our children of the future, are human, even the ones who may not be Homo sapiens. For those who believe in the Creator, it should be simple: you can't divide the image of G_d.)
My husband joked about breeding the short people (his term: "squatty bodies") out of the family by marrying me back when we were teens. There's a case to be made that there is nothing wrong with looking at and considering how to help our children, as long as no one dies for it.
( As a moral issue - proven to be correct by social science - I do believe that it's best for the family and the children for procreation to take place within marriage of a man and woman. As a practical matter, isn't the fact that such a large proportion of our children are being raised outside this traditional family a form of accidental, social eugenics?)
The good news is that no one has ever been able to clone a human being that lives beyond the first few cell divisions. The bad news is that Hwang of South Korea used over 2200 human eggs, that the attempts are ongoing in the UK and at Harvard. Probably in California, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Texas, too. Who knows? The next "tweak" to the science may be the key to allowing New Jersey and California to open their cloned human embryo "greenhouses."
Each of these embryos that are created appear normal for one or two divisions. They are organized, with a top/bottom, right/left, front/back axes, just like the "naturally" generated embryo from in vitro fertilization.
Unfortunately, California's Proposition 71 mandates that $3 Billion go into "regenerative medicine," and that much of it go for cloning and embryonic stem cell research. And New Jersey law is written to allow the gestation of embryos, as long as no live person is produced. Now, let's see. What is the current definition of "person"?
The immediate, urgent, problem - is that children are being harmed at very young ages.
Beyond the life issue: we don't know what we're doing, because the basic research in animals was not done first.
Instead, scientists and doctors rushed to be the first to publish, and justified much of what they have done by appealing to our compassion. It's hard for the most pro-life mother or father to protest actions that are sold as giving other mothers and fathers the children they so desperately crave.
The result: hundreds of thousands of the brothers and children of these children who are now in their parent's arms, are themselves in frozen limbo. They were created in harm's way, and are coveted by researchers who would disassemble them for their parts.
However, there are thousands of children who were begun by IVF. They are just now beginning to have children of their own.
From time to time, we hear some debate about whether to allow research that might change the genetic inheritance that will be passed on to the children of these children. Since the research is largely unregulated - and has never been paid for with federal funds - some private labs and universities using private funds are going ahead with attempts to change the germ line of embryos. Two examples:
1. The little boys born from intracytoplasmic sperm injections, a technique that places sperm that can't swim in the cytoplasm of the egg, are turning out to have immotile sperm themselves.
2. There are at least 15 children who have two mothers: the woman who bore them had defective mitochondria in the cytoplasm, so the embryos created from her and her husband were fused with an egg that had had the nucleus removed.
4 comments:
Eugenics had the appeal of many idealistic ideas. But, asside from the ethical problems, it wasn't really practical at all.
Even allowing for improvements in biotech - PGD and genetic testing - it still cant do anything larger than the scale of families. The population is just too large, and breeds too readily. Get an unwanted genetic disease out of a few individuals - but chances are good within a few generations they will have interbred with someone who does have it.
And the claims are exagerated. We dont have a super-racehorse. Best it can promise is to reduce the incidence of genetic diseases a bit.
Nice idea, but terrible policy. Better to just concentrate on the genetics of individuals, and to worry about the population as a whole.
SR, you're not taking into account the fact that there are now discussions about artificial genes and those babies with 5 or so parents. And don't forget those florescent monkeys. Have you heard about the man who wants chlorophyll in his skin so that he can live on sunlight and water?
Having spent most of my life reading way too much science fiction, I'm not as concerned about some of the outcomes. I am worried about people and how they will handle the transition.
I recommend the Lois McMaster Bujold Vorkosigian series, which begins with the novelette, Falling Free and Nancy Kress' short stories in Beaker's Dozen, and novel,Beggars in Spain.
The point is that it is possible that some of the children alive today are not Homo sapiens, due to the unintended consequences of their parents' manipulation before they were even conceived. If there are not such children, yet, there will be.
If nothing else, many of those little boys born due to intracytoplasmic sperm injection will need assistance when they want to become fathers. The assisted reproduction guys have ensured that at least some of them have job assurance.
C. S. Lewis likened this sort of manipulation by humans to enslaving all future generations.
Oh, im a furry. Fantasies about genetic technology are a big part of that :>
Its going to take more than a few extra genes to change a species. All of those modified humans are still very much human, and capable of interbreeding. All the really good things are more structural than just adding genes. That chlorophyll, for example - wouldn't work. It would need full chloroplasts, not just the chlorophyll itsself, and those dont work without a supply of carbon dioxide, and would probably jam other cellular processes... pure fantasy.
The chromosomal pick-and-mix might work. I wouldn't worry too much about infertility - its just a minor inconvenience really. I would worry more about cancer... but thats what the guina-pigs are for.
If you want something to worry about, I suggest copyright and patent law. Every time a new gene is discovered, its patented - its a gold-rush right now. And some are also available for copyrighting, like the glofish. A patent lasts just long enough, and a copyright a whole lot longer, for there to be potential legal issues when patented or copyrighted germline-treated offspring start to reproduce themselves.
Reminds me of another sci-fi story... I cant remember its title, just a generic dystopia. The 'bad guy' was a corporation that effectively enslaved people with loaned implants. Should an employee quit or be fired, they would be required to return their 'company property' - things like artificial limbs, eyes, the occasional heart.
All those little complications are just something to get past, right? (grin)
I'm watching the patent challenge against Thomson and WARF with interest. There's been several comments like your's that the patents are the biggest hassle. Second to getting government funding, of course.
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